ABOLISH AND UPGRADE ALL POSTS OF LOWER DIVISION CLERKS (LDCs) TO UPPER DIVISION CLERKS (UDCs) – MINISTRY OF RAILWAYS IS NOT IN FAVOUR OF THE STAFF SIDE DEMAND

Action taken report on the minutes of the standing Committee National Council JCM held on 03.05.2017

Minutes – Reacting to the comment made by the official side, the staff side pointed out that prima-facie, on introduction of computerized functioning in almost all departments, the functions assigned to LDCs have become redundant.

Decision – What is required is to get the report from each department and take a conscious decision, as LDC is a common category.

Report of the Ministry of Railways (OM dated 01.12.2017)

In view of functional requirement of Ministry of Railways (Railway Board) and promotional aspects of MTS, proposal to abolish and upgrade all posts of LDCs (LDC now as Junior Secretariat Assistant) to UDCs (now called as Senior Secretariat Assistant) may not be recommended and besides this, RBSCS is patterned on the lines of the CSCS and the existing system is working well, unless there is any change in CSCS, no change is desirable in RBSCS. 7th CPC has also not provided upgradation of to LDCs; therefore to abolish and upgrade all posts of LDCs to UDCs is considered not feasible.

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LDC-UDC ISSUE-GOVERNMENT STAND REITERATED

On the issue of LDC/UDC 7th Pay Commission reiterated the deceiving stand of the Government. Despite of realizing the issue as genuine, Government had not taken a positive decision at their level. The tens of thousands of LDC & UDC, solely responsible for the smooth running of many of the subordinate offices, were hoping that 7th Pay Commission will study the problem faced by them and take a positive decision. Staff Side JCM having convinced the importance of the issue, had also recommended merger & upgradation of the Grade Pay of LDC & UDC to Rs. 2800. But here we see that 7th Pay Commission has not taken any decision on the issue except giving some confusing and misleading statements to vindicate the stand taken by the Government as true. Extracts of some of their views on LDC UDC issue spread over various chapters of the reports is given below:

Higher GP 2400 to LDC and consequent upgradation of pay for other civilian posts in the Ministerial hierarchy.

11.22.100 The Academy has urged that LDC should be placed in higher GP 2400 as against the existing GP 1900 at par with grade pay of Data Entry Operator (DEO), on the grounds that both LDC and DEO enter service on the basis of same educational qualification i.e., Class XII and that the functions of LDC are more complex than that of a DEO. This issue has been dealt in Chapter 7.7. Recommendations made there would apply in this case also.

11.52.32 They have demanded upgradation in pay of certain category of non-industrial posts viz., LDC, UDC, Accountant, Junior Head Clerk, Head Clerk, Office Superintendent and Assistant Manager (Admin).

Analysis and Recommendations
11.52.33 The Commission has not received the views of the ministry/department on the issue. However, posts like LDC, UDC, Accountant are common to a number of ministries/ departments. Recommendations regarding their pay are contained in Chapter 7.7 and Chapter 11.35. The Commission does not find any justification for increase in pay scale of the other cadres.

But in Chapter 7.7 no direct recommendation except to decline the demand of LBSNAA to increase the promotional quota of MTS to LDC, is visible. The extract of Para 7.7.37 is give below:

Analysis and Recommendations
7.7.37 Looking at the qualification requirements and their job profile, the Commission does not recommend any changes in the pay structure or the promotional prospects of the MTS. Regarding MTS in Delhi Police, the Commission is of the view that since MTS is a common category, any special dispensation to MTS in Delhi Police is not justified. In so far as the MTS of LBSNAA are concerned, the Commission notes as per the recruitment rules for LDC, presently only 5 percent of MTS can get promoted to LDC through limited departmental examination. However, since the government has stopped direct recruitment for the clerical cadre and gradually phasing out the existing incumbents, their demand cannot be accepted.

LDCs
11.35.27 There are demands that 50 percent posts of LDCs be earmarked for filing up by promotion/departmental examination by MTS. It has been argued that the educational qualification for the post of MTS is Class X and they are recruited through SSC for performing the work of Peon, Mali, Cobbler, and Sweeper etc. Since most of the MTS join the post with higher qualification of Higher Secondary and Graduation, there is high rate of attrition in the MTS cadre.

Analysis and Recommendations
11.35.28 As per the recruitment rules for LDC, presently 5 percent of MTS can get promoted to LDC through limited departmental examination. Since government has already stopped direct recruitment for the clerical cadre and gradually phasing out the existing incumbents, this demand cannot be accepted. Moreover enhancement of promotional quota is an administrative matter to be considered by the relevant
administrative ministry.

Between the lines it can be read that the Government prevented the 7th Pay Commission to not consider the LDC/UDC issue positively and reiterated the wrong statement of the Government that that Government of India has stopped direct recruitment of LDC through Staff Selection as its recommendation. But the fact is that Staff Selection Commission is frequently conducting recruitment for the post of LDC and without the permission of the Government how they can done at their own. Combined higher secondary examination for the selection of LDC also has been conducted recently. If we take the intention of Government of phasing out the LDC post as true, then where is the alternative recommendation? Who will do the arduous work done by the young and energetic LDCs in the subordinate offices? It is to be noted that the normal ratio of LDC and UDC in subordinate offices is 5:2 and thus LDCs have been allocated responsible sections and in many smaller offices LDC alone is handling the work of entire Administration.

On the other hand rejecting Central Secretariat Clerical service demand of parity with DEO the commission observes “Even though the entry requirements are similar, historically the pay scales of the two posts have been different. Besides, they comprise two distinct cadres with different set of roles and responsibilities. Hence, the demand for parity of pay of LDC with DEOs cannot be acceded to by the Commission.”(Para 11.35.38).

Our view is that historically these cadres may be different set of roles but the fact is that functions of LDC are more complex than that of DEO and same was brought before the commission by various Associations/Administrative Authorities. Earlier pay Commissions have fixed Pay Scale to DEO considering their work on computer. But today LDCs are more expertise in computer than DEO for doing work in computer, but the demand of parity with DEO is rejected. Extract of Para 11.35.38 is given below:

Central Secretariat Clerical Service
11.35.38 The Central Secretariat Clerical Service (CSCS) consists of the following grades:
i. Upper Division Clerk (GP 2400)
ii. Lower Division Clerk (GP 1900)
LDC and Data Entry Operator (DEO)
11.35.39 It has been demanded that LDC of CSCS drawing pay in GP 1900 be placed in GP 2400 at par with the DEOs on the grounds that post VI CPC, the entry requirements for the two posts is almost similar.

Analysis and Recommendations
11.35.40 Even though the entry requirements are similar, historically the pay scales of the two posts have been different. Besides, they comprise two distinct cadres with different set of roles and responsibilities. Hence, the demand for parity of pay of LDC with DEOs cannot be acceded to by the Commission.

From the above it is clear that Government is adamant on not granting pay scale to LDC & UDCs in subordinate offices at par with the duties assigned to them. Even though the 7th CPC claimed that they have recommended pay scales on the principle of equal pay for equal work, the genuine issue of LDC/UDC is ignored. Thus we are forced to represent against the recommendation to the Government/JCM (Staff Side). All our LDC/UDC friends are requested to raise the issue in their respective Association/Office to force them to represent the issue to the implementation committee for consideration. Also please join all action programmes including strike action, called by the JCM (Staff Side), as published in this web site from time to time, to combat the situation.

TKR Pillai
General Secretary
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T.K.R. Pillai, General Secretary of All India Association of Administrative Staff(Non Gazetted) expressed his view on an order recently published by DoPT regarding the chage of Nomenaclature of LDC and UDC in Central Secretariat. We reproduced the article and given for your ready reference…

CHANGE OF NOMENACLATURE OF LDC & UDC IN CENTRAL SECRETARIAT

DOPT HAS DECIDED TO CHANGE THE NOMENCLATURE OF LDC & UDC OF CENTRAL SECRETARIAT OFFICES. BUT NOTHING IS HEARD IN RESPECT OF CHANGE OF NOMENCLATURE/MERGER OF LDCS AND UDCS OF SUBORDINATE OFFICES. IT IS TO BE NOTED THAT IMMEDIATELY BEFORE THE FINALIZATION OF 6TH PAY COMMISSION REPORT, GOVERNMENT HAD UPGRADED THE PAY SCALE OF THE ASSISTANT IN CENTRAL SECRETARIAT FROM RS. 5500-9000 TO 6500-10500 THAT PAVED THEM TO GET AN EDGE OVER THE PAY OF THE ASSISTANTS OF SUBORDINATE OFFICES. LIKEWISE IT MAY BE A MOVE TO GIVE MORE BENEFITS TO THE LDC & UDCS OF CENTRAL SECRETARIAT IN 7TH CPC.

IT IS TO BE NOTED THAT THIS ASSOCIATION HAS CONTINUOUSLY RAISING THE MERGER AND UPGRADATION OF GRADE PAY LDC & UDC. THE CASE WAS SENT TO JCA SECTION WITH RECOMMENDATION BY THE DOPT BUT THE JCA RETURNED THE SAME TO DOPT WITH A REMARK THAT “THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE OF ANOMALY AND NO SUCH ITEM WAS BEFORE THE NATIONAL ANOMALY COMMITTEE” AND SUGGESTED THAT ESTABLISHMENT II MAY PROCESS THE CASES WITH THE CASE OF LDC & UDCS OF CENTRAL SECRETARIAT IN CONSULTATION WITH THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE. BUT DOPT HAS RETURNED THE CASE TO THIS ASSOCIATION WITH A DIRECTIVE TO TAKE UP THE SAME WITH MINISTRY OF FINANCE DIRECTLY.

IT IS WORTH TO MENTION HERE THAT JCA HAD RETURNED THE CASE WITH A PLEA THAT THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE OF ANOMALY AND NO SUCH ITEM WAS BEFORE THE NATIONAL ANOMALY COMMITTEE. WHEREAS ON 9TH JUNE WHEN THE LAST MEETING OF THE NATIONAL ANOMALY COMMITTEE HELD, ITEM NO. 4 –”UPGRADATION OF PAY BAND AND GRADE PAY OF LDCS AND UDCS” WAS DISCUSSED. WHEN THERE WAS NO ITEM WAS PENDING WITH THE JCA, THEN HOW THIS ITEM SURFACED IN THE ANOMALY COMMITTEE MEETING. SIMILARLY THE CONCERNED OFFICER IN DOPT HAD ORALY INFORMED ME THAT THE CASE OF LDC & UDC WAS RETURNED BECAUSE HIS SECTION IS DEALING THE CASES OF LDC & UDC OF CENTRAL SECRETARIAT ONLY AND THE LDC & UDC OF CENTRAL SECRETARIAT HAD NOT DEMANDED THEIR PAY UP-GRADATION.

THE STATE OF LDCS POSTED IN SUBORDINATE OFFICES HAD DISCUSSED IN THIS WEBSITE SEVERAL TIMES. THEY ARE ALLOCATED WITH WORK WORTH TO BE ALLOCATED TO UDC/ASSISTANT AND IN MOST OF THE CASES OFFICERS ARE TAKING DECISION ON THE FILE PUT UP BY THE LDCS WHERE AS IN CENTRAL SECRETARIAT SUCH FILES INITIATES BY UDC/ASSISTANT LEVEL. THUS IT IS HIGH TIME THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD TAKE A DECISION ON THE UPGRADATION OF GRADE PAY AND NOMENCLATURE OF LDC & UDCS WORKING IN THE SUBORDINATE OFFICES BEFORE THE FINALIZATION OF PAY COMMISSION REPORT.

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DoPT seeks suggestions on the proposal under consideration to change the name of posts of LDC, UDC and Assistants of CSCS / CSS.

G.I., Dept. of Per. & Trg., O.M.F.No.21/12/2010-CS.I(P), dated the 17.08.2015

Subject: Proposal to change nomenclature of posts of CSCS/CSS

The undersigned is directed to say that this Department is considering a proposal to change nomenclature of posts of Central Secretariat Clerical Service (CSCS) and Central Secretariat Service (CSS), as under:

2. All concerned may give their inputs/suggestions on the proposal latest by 18th September, 2015 at the e-mail id given below.

sd/-
(Parminder Singh)
Under Secretary to the Government of India
Tele:24642705
e-mail :
parminder.edu@nic.in

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NAC Meeting today : Upgradation of Pay for LDC and UDC will be discussed

The Secretary, NCJCM Staff Side has already informed that a meeting NAC will be held after the final Meeting of NCJCM with 7th Pay Commission. Accordingly the DOPT is holding the National Anomaly Committee Meeting today at 3.00 PM at New Delhi. The office Memorandum issued to all Staff Side Members 0f The National Anomaly Committee stated that..

“In continuation of meeting held on 29/5/2015 the next meeting of the National Anomaly Committee is scheduled to be held under the Chairpersonship of Joint Secretary (Establishment) on 9th June, 2015 at 3.00 P.M. in the Conference Hall (Room No. 190) North Block, New Delhi. Agenda Notes for the meeting as suggested by the Staff Side are enclosed.
All the concerned are requested to kindly make it convenient to attend the meeting.”

The agenda points finalized for discussion in the NAC meeting

There are 12 Items listed in the Agenda Notes for Discussion ,

At Item Number 4 the issue of Upgradation of Pay Band and Grade Pay of LDC, UDCs and stenographers Gr.III In Subordinate offices is included for discussion. it is established in the point that LDCs may be placed in PB-i with Grade Pay of Rs.2800 and UDCs may be placed in PB-2 with Grade Pay of Rs.4200

ITEM No.4 : Upgradation of Pay Band and Grade Pay of LDC, UDCs and stenographers Gr.III In Subordinate offices.

Group ‘D’ employees have been placed in PB-I with Grade Pay Rs. 1800 and entry qualification now prescribed in Matriculation.

LDC/UDCB have been assigned the same PB-I with Grade Pay of Rs. 1900 and Rs. 2400.

Assistants and Stenographers of Central Secretariat who were in the pre revised pay scale of Rs.5500-9000 PB-2 with Grade Pay of Rs. 4200 has been granted upgraded pay scale in PB-2 with Grade Pay of Rs.4600 with retrospective effect from 1.1.2006. (0M dated 17.11.2009).

The result is that vertical relativity between Group ‘D’ and LDCs has been drastically reduced on the one hand and on the other vertical relativity between UDC sand Stenographer Gr.III of subordinate offices vis a vis the Assistants and Stenographers of Central Sectt. has been widened. In both way the relativities vis-à-vis Group D’ and LDCs and vis-à-vis UDCs/Stenographer III and Assistants have been disturbed without assigning any reasons therefore.

With a view to maintain the well established relativities it is proposed that LDCs may be placed in PB-i with Grade Pay of Rs.2800 and UDCs may be placed in PB-2 with Grade Pay of Rs.4200.

All other Agenda points of NAC Meeting

Item No. I : Anomaly In the Pay Band I Grade Pay of Gazetted Officer in prerevised Pay scale of Rs.6500-10500

Item No.2 : Anomaly in the Pay Scale of Data Proccssing Assistants Grade A

ITEM No.3 :PB-2 with Grade Pay of Rs.4200 for Lab Technicians

ITEM No.4:Upgradation of Pay Band and Grade Pay of LDC, UDCs and stenographers Gr.III in Subordinate offices.

ItemNo. 5: Grant of PB-2 Grade Pay Rs.4200 to Senior Clerks of Delhi Milk Scheme ,

Item No.6 :Removal of anomaly in the case of Artisan staff of different departments.

Item No.7 :Sub: Maintaining the horizontal parity as recommended by the 6th Central Pay Commission.

Item No. 8 :Maintaining horizontal relativity between the Section Officers of Central Sectt. And the Income tax Officers, Superintendents of Post Officers, Superintendents of Central Excise and Customs Departments.

Item No. 9 :Pay Band and Grade Pay for Medical Assistant of Ordnance factories.

Item No. 10 :Issues of Store keeping Staff

Item No.11 : Children Education Allowance – Denial thereof

Item No.12 : NOTE ON MASTER CRAFTSMAN IN MMS UNDER DEPARTMENT OF POSTS FOR DISCUSSION IN THE FAST TRACK COMMITTEE

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F.No. 14020/ 1 /2014-Estt. (D)
Government of India
Ministry of Personnel, Public Grievances and. Pensions
Department of Personnel & Training

North Block, New Delhi
Dated the 22nd April, 2015

OFFICE MEMORANDUM

Subject:- Instructions on exemption from passing the Typewriting Test on Computer in respect of LDCs, regarding.

The undersigned is directed to say that instructions issued by this
Department vide O.M.No.14020/2/91-Estt(D) dated 29th September, 1992 provide for grant of exemption from passing the typing test for drawal of increments and confirmation in respect of LDCs.

2(i) . The above mentioned instructions provide for exemptions as under:-

a) If above 45 years of age on the date of their appointment, such
persons may be granted exemption from the date of their
appointment.

b) If between the age of 35 years and 45 years at the time of their
appointment, such persons may be granted exemption on
attaining the age of 45 years.

c) If below 35 years of age on the date of appointment, such persons
may be given exemption after 10 years of service as LDC provided
they have made two genuine attempts to pass the typing test;
otherwise they may be granted exemption after attaining the age of
45 years.

d) Those LDCs who have made two genuine attempts for passing the
typing test prior to issue of this 0 M but have not completed 8
years service as LDC, may be granted exemption from passing the
typing test after completion of 8 years of service or on attaining the
age of 45 years, whichever is earlier.

(ii) For the Physically handicapped persons, these instructions provide for exemptions as under:-

a) Physically handicapped persons who are otherwise qualified to hold clerical post and who are certified as being unable to type by the Medical Board attached to Special Employment Exchanges for the Handicapped (or by a Civil Surgeon where there is no such Board) may be exempted from passing the typing test.
b) The term ‘physically handicapped persons’ does not cover those who are visually handicapped or who are hearing handicapped but cover only those whose physical disability permanently prevents them from typing.

3. Model RRs for the post of Lower Division Clerk (LDC) were issued vide this Department’s O.M.No.AB-14017/32/2009-Estt(RR) dated 7th October, 2009. The entries pertaining to Skill Test Norms prescribed in the Col. 8 of the Model RRs for the post of LDC were modified to include the Skill Test Norms ‘only on computers’ vide this Department’s O.M.No.AB-14017/32/2009-Estt(RR) dated 17) 11May, 2010.

4. This Department has received references whether the instructions as contained in this Department’s OM dated 29.9.1992 are applicable for test on Computer or not. The matter has been examined and it has been decided that the criteria for grant of exemption from passing the typing test in respect of such LDCs including Physically Handicapped persons/Persons with Disabilities as stipulated in this Department’s O.M.No.14020/2/91-Estt(D) dated 29th September, 1992 would also be applicable to the test on Computers.

5. It has also been decided to extend the above instructions to
Sportspersons recruited against Sports quota under the Scheme of
appointment of meritorious Sportspersons.

(Mukta Goel)
Director(E-I)

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Dear friends,

We have been receiving frequent queries through SMS & e-mail in connection with latest position of the case filed. Besides, several of our friends wanted to know the approach of 7th Pay Commission towards the new pay structure of LDC & UDC.
As has already been said, three cases have been filed on the upgradation of Grade Pay of LDC/UDC in various courts so far and all these cases are progressing at their respective places.

In furtherance, we have submitted a very good memorandum to 7th Pay Commission; a copy of the same was published in this web site on 15th July 2014, wherein we demanded the upgradation of grade pay LDC to Rs. 2800 & UDC to 4200. Moreover, leaders of National JCM (Staff side) had contacted us and asked to send a proposal for LDC & UDC to add in the JCM Memorandum. Accordingly, JCM (Staff side) has recommended merger of the grade pay of LDC & UDC and upgradation of Grade Pay to Rs. 2800/ which may be treated as an achievement.

According to our information LDC/UDC issue was raised before the Pay Commission at Bangalore by some LDC/UDC and the commission has given a very positive reply. It means due to our timely efforts, LDC/UDC may get the upgraded scale in the 7th CPC. And we are sure that we will win the case filed in the courts which will pave way for implementation of upgraded Grade pay from 1.1.2006.

You are aware that the 7th Pay Commission is scheduled to visit at Mumbai on 6th -8th & Shimla on 12 & 13 November 2014. The Commission will visit more cities in the coming days. Administrative Staff especially the LDC/UDC are requested to please raise the issue of upgradation of Grade Pay of LDC/UDC in its own prominence in the meetings of the Pay Commission.

Please visit our web site regularly and encourage others to visit and sending views, on the contents/issues raised, to us in order to improve the time and quality of the issues published.

With greetings
(TKR Pillai)
General Secretary

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LDC-UDC ISSUE:
The comments of Shri George Antony, Kalpakkam on the Memorandum submitted to the 7th Pay Commission by this Association is given below: Shri Antony has made a comparative study on the pay scales of LDC & UDCs of Kerala State and Central Government wherein it has seen that the LDC/UDC posted in Central Government are being paid much less pay than the pay of LDC/UDC of Kerala State.

All our friends are requested to send useful material in support of the demands put up by us to the 7th CPC to this Association so that the same may be used during oral evidence.

TKR Pillai

I have gone through your memorandum to 7th CPC. After analyzing the past pay commissions and various state government pay commissions, I have observed some facts which I would like to share with you. This may be useful for your meeting with 7th CPC in the nearby future. The observations are listed below for your consideration.
1) There is a general conception that central gov. employee’s pay is more than state gov. employee’s pay. But this is not true in many cases.
Kerala gov. employee’s pay is more than central gov. employee’s pay in many equivalent posts like LDC, UDC etc.

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